I hope too also finish a book I stared 2 months ago, It wouldn't be a bitter {look what they did to me thing} I want alot of humor, You know something like "Angels's Ashes" Looking for true funny story's.
new boy
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New Book on Jehovah's Witnesses?
by stevieb1 inwe've had two from ray franz in the 1980/90's and one from jim penton (mid 80's) and some brilliant tomes on specific subjects such as those from carl jonnsen but now we're in 2002 isn't it time we had a new and up-to-date masterpiece to defend truth against error?.
what i mean is that most witnesses today may not be too bothered about beth-sarim or what happened within the wt back in 1975 they want to read something bang up-to-date in one succinct volume.. does anyone know of any works in progress?
the watchtower apologists (such as stafford and furuli) are quite active why aren't the ex-jw's?
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Defeating The Watchtower - What Does This Mean?
by hillary_step ini actually wrote this post in response to a poster recently dealing with the 'defeating' of the wts.. i have started a new topic with the post as i would like to hear opinions of what xjw's and others view as a 'defeated' watchtower.. "i am not quite sure what we all want from the wts.
what does a person mean by 'defeating' the watchtower?.
destroying it, selling its buildings, giving the cash back to the people who bought them?
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new boy
nice post ----------It will be gone one day, but were will Your life be at that point? remember the guy in "princes Bride" Who said " I've been in the revenge buesiness so long I'm not quite sure what to do now!"
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still feeling the guilt.
by sleepy instill feeling the guilt.. why?.
i havent done enought.. but i feel my hands are tied.. i could write to friends, call them go to the hall and make a speech,or go to assembly grounds, hand out leaflets.. but if i do any of that i will be disfellowshipped.. then no one will talk to me even my family will have problems.. but if i don't do something now what good is my current standing with the witnesses, whats the point in being able to talk to them if i don't use it to any effect?.
do i just sod it all ,write a load of letters , even go to the hall i put my hand up and say what i really think?.
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new boy
sleepy--------I to thought I could do some good by staying in though I knew since 1992, it was wrong. It took 9 years to leave. maybe I did help a few, but staying in was making me physically sick! I feel great now! At what cost are you willing to pay?
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bethelite kills self because of guilt 10/31/73
by new boy ini was working on my car in the factory {bld.
1} on friday oct. 31 1973, when all hell broke loose, the fire alarm in bld.
4 went off at about 9:30. the night watchman could find nothing.
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I was working on my car in the factory {bld. 1} on friday Oct. 31 1973, when all hell broke loose, the fire alarm in bld. 4 went off at about 9:30. The night watchman could find nothing. Monday we were all coming back from lunch, I was taking passengers up the east freight elevator when we saw fire trucks behind bld. 4. There to our surprize, they were taking the stiff body of James Olsen out of the bushs. Tom Combs {overseer of 4th job press} said "he MUST have done something REALLY bad to have killed himself!" Norm Brecky {overseer of the 5th floor ink room} said "I'm glad he jumped off the back of bld. 4, we don't need the publicity" --------DEAD and already judged! The Thursday before Oct. 30th I saw him on my elevator, fighting back the tears, "whats wrong?" I asked. He said "he just couldn't take in any more and left bethel a week ago,{A.W.O.L} went home---------and told his parents. They said "You are a reproach to us the family, and the organization---- and you wiil be going back!" They called Max Larsen {the factory overseer} and begged for another chance for their son. -----------Well after 2 hours in Max's office telling him what a disapointment he was to his family, he left, the loneliest person on the planet. With another chance? "well you only got 3 years 6 months left".-------- I got problems of my own, I thought.------"You will know them ----by their love"-----------I along with everone at bethel-- KILLED James Olsen---with our APATHY-----I can still see his face as he walked out of my elevator.
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MORE NEWS COVERAGE TONIGHT
by VeniceIT intonight there is going to be an extensive interview involveing the practises of shunning among other things with the wts.
a sister has been interviewed for nearly 45 min today and it will be on the 5 o'clock news on koin 6 tv.
please watch and tape this, also contact the reporters with more info.
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new boy
Since I live in Portland I called the "oregonian" news paper Sunday morning and let them know that I was a 52 year {in the faith} EX J.W. With some interesting story's. They are meeting with me 3/19/01 @ 10:30 to do an interview, the story will be in the in thursday the 21st.
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Who is actualy a jehovah witness here? I mean Jeez
by ShyGurlie inim a young high school girl who thinks that this is crazy.
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new boy
Didn't your parents an the "brothers" how bad the internet was for you just might get i-n-f-o-r-m-a-t-i-o-n! that could change your life! but of course they wouldn't want that-------- would they?
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Whos hold the world record for most D.Fed?
by new boy in--------------who holds the world record for the most disfellowshipings [ an reinstatments] in a single life time?
i knew of one poor person charleen moss who did it seven times.
a classic damed if i do, damed if i don't i think she liked seating in the back of the k.h.
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--------------WHO HOLDS THE WORLD RECORD FOR THE MOST DISFELLOWSHIPINGS [ AN REINSTATMENTS] IN A SINGLE LIFE TIME? I knew of one poor person Charleen Moss who did it seven times. a classic Damed If I do, Damed if I don't I think she liked seating in the back of the K.H. waiting to be reinstated, the good thing is she did't have to talk to anyone, and could leave as soon as the meeting was over! I don't know if she was in or out when she died 2 years.
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No windows in K Hs, why?
by rekless indoes anyone have the real reason for this.. i thought that it was for insurance reasons.. is it due to the orgs.
paranoia?.
hell is truth seen too late.
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new boy
In the hall I was in in the early "60s" Azusa calif. we would loose about one window a month due to rocks. people love us world wide. it feels so good to get persecution, It means your on the right track--right?
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Those Whom the Gods Would Destroy
by metatron inan old greek proverb.
"those whom the gods would destroy.
they first make mad".
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met The wheeels are coming off, the system is all ready in decline the last assembly I went to last spring only 3 kids got baptized out of 1000 people! I'd bet 6-10 got DFed in the same period of time!
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52 years J.W to new age medaconsciousness
by new boy ini had no intention to change my life, though i knew it wasn't the truth.
my father said to me "i know its the truth but i can't live it" i told him " i know its not,the truth!
but i can" {he was dfed in 1961} i wasn't ready to lose all my family & friends to live a differt life, besides i thought i had a pretty good life, why change it, a great wife, 2 amazing kids, lots of wonderful friends, a good job {many of my clients j.ws} besides i thought maybe i could help some of them to see the world a little differently.
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I had no intention to change my life, though I knew it wasn't the truth. My father said to me "I know its the truth but I can't live it" I told him " I know its not,the truth! but I can" {he was DFed in 1961} I wasn't ready to lose all my family & friends to live a differt life, besides I thought I had a pretty good life, why change it, a great wife, 2 amazing kids, lots of wonderful friends, a good job {many of my clients J.Ws} besides I thought maybe I could help some of them to see the world a little differently. Well it all came crashing down on july 30 when after 27 years of marriage my wife drove away never to return. I could have never left her------- so she found the courage to leave me!---- GOD I love that women-----It was the best thing that ever happen to me!!! Everone felt so bad for me "how could she do it? Keith was such a good husband & father". The "friends" proved to be not such good friends after all, they didn't know who's side to take, and as you all know J.W.s have to pick sides {whos good? whos bad?} so they just stayed away from both of us. Which was the best thing.------ I realized I was living a lie, I was trying to keep everone happy and in the end, no one was happy. These people were not my friends after all. They were afraid like me to love all people everywhere Well I lost 6 million "friends" only to gain 5,994,000,000 new friends!!! God is so powerful, do you think he can save only one person out of 1000 {6,000,000 j.w.s 6,000,000,000 worlds pop.} the j.w.s make god weak and vengeful. There is only one God and that God loves all of mankind!!! some of my new best freinds " Conversations with God" by Whalsh "Seat of the soul" by Gary Zukov "Dark night of the soul" Carolyn Myss